Joe on Vicki Gabereau
Taped February 19 and aired on February 21/2001

Hi on the show today, an accomplished actor and he seems quite clever too because he’s taken a
great shine to Vancouver, Joe Lando will be here.

Vicki:  I suppose he’s best known as Byron Sully, I love names like that on television characters
and he was,  for many years, on Dr Quinn, Medicine Woman, six  years in fact he was there and
apparently he might be strapping back into the old buckskins once again.  This is Joe Lando.
hairless ...
 

     
Joe: 

    Thank you.

Vicki:

    You know, what happened to the hair?

Joe:  

    I cut if off about two days before my son was born.

Vicki:

    A sort of an act of ..er...?

Joe:

    Well, I think I knew that the show wasn’t going to go and I’d grown the hair specifically for
    Quinn and so I cut it off, it was a catharsis, and I got a lot of flack for it too.

Vicki:

    You did?

Joe:

    Yes,  from the fans.

Vicki:

    Oh yes, because they expect you to look the same.

Joe:

    And for years people were telling me that to get a job on  hiatus people were saying cut your
    hair, it’s hard to cast you in these other things, and I cut my hair and then everybody  was like
    “who are you?”  You know?  I was Hercules, I was somebody ....
 

     
Vicki:

    Oh yes, well Kevin had the same problem.

Joe:

    They all thought I was Kevin and kids would come out to visit us at the set and would say
    like “you’re Hercules” “no I’m not” “yes you are” Okay, I’m Hercules or whoever you want me to be
    today.  Michael Bolton would be another one I used to get.

Vicki:

    Oh yes, but you have way more hair than Michael Bolton.

Joe:

    Oh thankfully.
 
 

     
Vicki:

    And you have better taste perhaps ....?  Oh don’t give me any grief about ...

Joe:

    He’s going out with Pam Anderson?   That’s the rumor I heard.

Vicki:

    I thought he was going out with somebody else.  You must know all the dirt eh?

Joe:

    Because I live in LA now too eh?  I go down there and they're like what’s that accent  you
    have now - it’s Chicago, it’s Canadian, it’s where ever I am.

Vicki:

    There’s a guy who owns the Grizzleys for the moment...

Joe:

    Strike?

Vicki:

    He doesn’t say eh but he says aboot the way Canadians do and he’s from one of the
    Carolinas and there’s a neurotic thing in Hollywood about this aboot thing.
 

     
Joe:

    I was in an audition and they said “oh you were up in Vancouver” and I said yes I’d love to
    to shoot this show, and they said you already have the accent ...oot and aboot ...

Vicki:

    We’ve had this conversation nine times  I’m going to swear off it.

Joe:

    Oh sorry.
 

Vicki:

    No, No.  So what’s happening with Dr. Quinn?  You’re going to do another one?

Joe:

    It looks like it.  I’ll find out probably later on today but I read a great script last week and
    we’re going to shoot it in Montreal as opposed to Vancouver.

Vicki:

    So it’s in the winter maybe?  Snowing?

Joe:

    It’s supposed to be July in the script.  Go figure.

Vicki:

    Oh, yeah?

Joe:

    Yeah, there’s a lot of interiors, so - I’ve never been in Montreal.

Vicki:

    Oh I think you’ll really really like it.

Joe:

    It’ll be three quick weeks.

Vicki: 

    It’s a fantastic city.  But you like this city so much you bought a house here but I guess if
    there’s not a series to keep you here, you’re not going to keep the house are you?
 

     
Joe:

    I came up almost two years I’ve been here, I moved up way ahead of time before we started
    shooting Higher Ground, even before pre-production, to get acclimated and to get my wife and baby
    and our family dug in and we just lived across the street for 4 ½ months, and at 11 0 clock at
    night I’d take my dogs out for a walk and every actor in town seems to stay at Sutton Place so
    here you are putting on a hat and putting on pajamas and sneaking out into the elevator....

Vicki: 

    Pajamas?  You were out in the street walking in your pajamas?

Joe:

    I was so embarrassed but we ran around a lot and I finally bought the house here I was telling
    you about earlier, restored it ....

Vicki:

    Was that a great part?

Joe: 

    Higher Ground?

Joe:

    Yes, and it felt really like I was getting something down as opposed to just being a gun for
    hire as I was an executive producer and that too was the beginning, and I think it was a great
    show and we dealt with some really good subjects. It was just mishandled by the distributor in the
    States

Vicki:

    And yes a heartbreaking thing, you get some distributors who really don’t know how to
    handle it

Joe:

    They didn’t know what to do with it and it was a show that you know, appealed to the teen
    audience but also make it interesting for adults to watch too and it had a lot of great stories and if
    the crew enjoyed working on it, you know some of the characters were living next door, I’m very
    proud of it -  22 episodes.  We started a lot of new careers, Hayden Christensen ....

Vicki: 

    From what I understand, one of the episodes wouldn’t air was the teen suicide, the
    common course of death

Joe:

    That’s when I knew we were in trouble.  They flinched on that one.  It wasn’t ABC it was
    Fox Family who had it and they were worried about this teen suicide episode, what happens if a
    kid kills himself and I said what happens if one doesn’t kill themselves, do we take credit for that?
    I think we presented it in a very respectful way and wasn’t glamours.  It was like going to my
    funeral and watch it and cry.  It was the reaction of the kids around him, disappointment, the
    anger, and they made us come back in and fix it, make it just an attempted suicide kind of a thing
    and then they messed up the air date of the original, after I’d pulled out most of my hair arguing
    and they ended up putting the real one on.

Vicki:

    And what was the upshot.  Did it have big numbers?

Joe:

    It was well received, I mean I read the fan mail and the e mail that came in and that’s where
    I felt the most gratified, there were people watching the show and getting the point of what we
    were trying to do and I appreciated it.

Vicki:

    But a show that’s only 22 episodes, ... does it die a filing cabinet death?

Joe:

    It was a very painful long death and they wouldn’t release the show so we could maybe sell
    it again so by the time they got around to releasing it, it was kind of like damaged goods, and we
    were just starting to find out stride, getting it all together, ‘cos you know we had just this little
    teeny budget and a lot of people were just very enthusiastic it was a good team and it was too
    bad.

Vicki:

    Do you think you could make it live again?

Joe:

    I think it’s time has passed .  They’re still talking about it but to get people back together ,,,
    they all have jobs and I’m looking ... you know ....

Vicki:

    You’re looking for work?

Joe:

    I’m looking for work.  I’m back in line so if anybody has anything for me.  I do laundry,
    windows, in fact I was dressed really nicely this morning and I got up early ‘cos normally I’m
    nervous as can be the night before and I can’t sleep but last I slept like a baby

Vicki:

    Nervous about what?

Joe:

    About coming here and seeing you and being up in front of a bunch of  people like this?

Vicki:

    Now that’s good in an actor ...

Joe:

    Well it is ... well once I’m acting it’s a different story, once I cross onto the set but, it’s you
    know, I’m painfully shy, but if I’m playing a character it doesn’t bother me.  So I get up this
    morning, get all dressed up and I decide to do a load of whites and I’m running out the door and I
    see the car parked in the driveway so I take off my sports coat and put it down and I take the
    bleach off the shelf and it falls, and I was wearing all black, right?  And it was like one of those
    slow motion tumbles (does sounds effect)  and the thing hits ....

Vicki:

    Bleach was all over your black outfit

Joe:

    Yup, gone is the Amani sweater and the slacks and the Italian shoes, so here I am ...

Vicki:

    So you have nice clothes don’t you?

Joe:

    Oh I have some nice stuff but I always dress like a slob.

Vicki:

    Do you?  well that’s nice jacket ... And your microphone is falling off ....

Vicki:

    I’m back with Joe Lando, a shy guy who won’t stop talking. His series includes Dr. Quinn
    Medicine Woman where I guess they’re going to do a one off movie and Higher Ground and One
    Life to Live - how many episodes of that?

Joe:

    One Life, was about 360?

Vickie:

    You could wallpaper a whole wall.

Joe: 

    I have quietly worked for about 10 years without anybody really knowing it.

Vicki:

    I hate admitting this sort of thing but Soap Operas and I have never been intimate
    companions so what’s the story on One Life to Live?

Joe:

    What’s the story ... well there’s a hospital, a town, a rich family, a poor family and the one
    who sleeps around with everybody.

Vicki:

    Was that you ...?

Joe:

    No!!!  I was the misunderstood guy from the wrong side of the tracks.  My name was Jake
    Harrison.
 
Vicki:

    Jake?  Say it again.

Joe:

    Jake Harrison.

Vicki laughs

Joe:

    I had a good time, the biggest challenge 20 pages a day to do and it’s not all golden and you
    have to make it work and so I did my time and it was a great place for a young actor to learn and
    make money and I was in New York and I had a gig.  It was great.

Vicki:

    Better than what you were doing before?

Joe:

    Which was cooking and you know, my bank account I kept in a jacket in my closet from pay
    check to paycheck, but I was a cook for years and years, I did motion picture catering, ran a few
    restaurants, met my wife, she was a cashier at the time at one of the restaurants so that’s how we
    met ...

Vicki:

    And you’ve had a restaurant ....?

Joe:

    I’ve had two failed restaurants.

Vicki:

    Three times lucky  It’s the hardest thing in the world to make a restaurant work

Joe:

    It’s about a 68% failure rate.

Vicki:

    Where were your two restaurants that tanked?

Joe:

    Both in LA.  We opened up the first wrap store about 4 years ago, went up to San Franciso
    and stole this idea and started that and thought it would take off and it should have but it was just
    mismanaged, and the other one was just like a sports bar which I hated, the pool tables and beer
    attracted me to it but they guys in there drove me nuts, yelling at the t.v. and that was in Venice
    California in a location that is doomed, restaurants seem to get a jinx and it doesn’t matter what
    goes in there and we took that over knowing that the other two places had tanked, but um, so
    anyway you live and learn.

Vicki:

    Would you do it again?

Joe:

    Yes I would.  It’s this sadist masochistic thing you get in your blood when you’re a
    restaurant person.

Vicki:

    Well you’ve had a full plate

Joe:

    I’m a tortured human

Vicki:

    Yes, and the restaurant thing, two things which are most terrifying to most people -  if you
were to open another restaurant, what kind of restaurant would it be?

Joe:

    Um well really I talked for quite a while with one of the producers on Higher Ground as I
    don’t see any good pizza place here

Vickie: 

    There isn’t one?

Joe:

    I have yet to find some really good New York/Chicago style pizza.

Vickie:

    What’s wrong with Canadian pizza?

Joe:

    Well, I dunno, the dough and the sauce is a little off ..

Vickie:

    Off ....?

Joe:

    (quickly) I found a great place that sells hot dogs here though.

Vicki:

    Yeah?  What’s that?

Joe:

    Chicago Dogs ....

Vicki:

    Chicago, Chicago, Chicago.  There’s a world out there .... you’re from Chicago?

Joe:

    Apparently!

Vicki:

    No kidding!   You grew up there?

Joe:

    Mmmmm and then I moved out to LA when I was 18 to become an actor

Vickie: 

    Did you run away from home?

Joe:

    No, I just got in my car and drove but my parents never thought I’d leave home. I was very
    happy there but then I just had this acting bug so on my own I went out there with 400 bucks and
    I was naive to not know better

Vicki:    

    Yeah and how long?

Joe:

    10 years later

Vicki:

    ooooh 10 years ....

Joe:

    Yes, I moved at 18, at 28 I got the OLTL gig in NY and that was scarey.  I was worried
    about moving to NY ‘cos I lived in a kind of a tough neighbourhood

Vicki: 

    You were living in your car in LA?

Joe:

    A little bit.  And couches and that kind of stuff.  But it was fun.  And I couldn’t afford my
    acting class so I was the janitor at night there so I’d clean up the studio and sleep on the couch
    but be out by 9 in the morning when the first class filed in.  That was embarrassing to see people
    coming in when you’re waking up on the couch.  So I’d grab my toothbrush and then have to go
    out and do something all day long but it was a good time.

Vicki:

    Well sure, because you had no responsibilities.  Now you have a lot of responsibilities.
    You’re a husband and a poppa  you’re going to have to get a job.

Joe:

    Believe me, well hopefully I have a few things lined up so I’m looking forward to ...

Vicki:

    Well I think it was wonderful that you could come up here today to be on the show

Joe:

    I apologize for not being on sooner

Vicki: 

    Oh yeah, well, I know, yeah well ... Why, you kept being booked to be on it and then you
    never showed up.  What was that about?

Joe:

    Well first time we didn’t even have a name for the show

Vicki:

    Right it was called something else?

Joe:

    It was called Cliffhangers, it was called this, it was called that and I thought I’ll look like a
    real ass if I get up there and I can’t even say the name of my own show so I thought we should
    postpone that one and then I could not get away from the set.  It was just impossible.

Vicki:

    Well you know I didn’t think you were a prima dona if that’s what you can call guys but
    you know, I just thought you were busy.

Joe:

    I was and I apologize and I wanted to make good of my words so that’s why I’m here
    today.

Vicki:

    There is one story I’ve heard a lot about you and that’s your appearance on Star Search.
    Now I thought mostly people who appear on Star Search came on and tap danced or did a little
    song or were spokes models, but you acted?

Joe: 

    They had an acting portion until I did it.  I was terrible, in fact I was just talking to
    somebody last night who worked at Star Search and one of my buddies wanted to see the tape ....
    I hope you don’t have anything like that?

Vicki:

    I wish to God we did ..... I would pay any price

Joe:

    Oh it was so embarrassing ...

Vicki: 

    What did you do?

Joe:

    They write these awful scenes for the show and mine was about I worked in a fishery all day
    and my girlfriend thought I smelled fishy so I had go to the perfume counter and buy myself
    perfume and flirt with the girl. There was another actress who was competing too and so you’re
    put in two and two couples do the same thing and then you’re judged on it, it was godawful stuff.

Vicki: 

    Did you win?

Joe:

    No I lost immediately.   I walked away in shame but I needed rent money

Vicki:

    They paid you?

Joe: 

    Yeah, they paid you scale plus 10 or something.  The guy who I was up against went on to
    win 100 grand and then went on to work in soaps in New York but I have no idea where he is
    right now.

Vicki:

    Do you remember his name

Joe:

    No, I don’t remember his name.  Do you know Sharon Stone was their first spokesmodel

Vicki:

    How good was she do you suppose?

Joe:

    She’d be good.

Vicki:

    Do you know her?

Joe:

    Absolutely not!  I don’t know many people.  I know you now.

Vicki:

    Good, well that oughta help you!   I hope you come back here to work but of course what
    will happen is you’ll sell your house and you’ll immediately get a gig up here.

Joe:

    I’ll be over at your place.  Got a place out back where the kids can stay?

Vicki:

    As long as you cook I’ll keep you.

Joe:

    I can cook!
 

Vicki: 

    Joe Lando, finally, at last, thank you so much!
 
 
 
 


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