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Session Start: Sat Sep 15 07:56:08 p.m. EDT 2001 <LisaW> Hello and welcome to our First Joe Chat at The Joe Lando Web Page ... with Joe! This will be a moderated chat. That means that only Judy, "Joe," and I will be able to send messages to the chat. You can, however, write personal messages to each other by double clicking on the other person's name. Do not do this though with Judy, Joe, or me during the chat because we will not read them and they will clutter up our workspace. Joe will be on the phone with Judy, who will read him the questions and type his answers back to us. This is why we asked for questions ahead of time. I've edited the questions, trying to keep the essence of the question without getting into too much detail as well as to combine similar questions. If you have any complaints about how the questions were edited, take them only to me. If time permits, we may be asking for additional questions. Whether or not we can do this will depend on how much time Joe is allotting us. Enjoy yourselves! *** Joins: joelando <jra28>(Judy) Hi Joe! Thank you for taking the time to come and chat with us - we really appreciate it. I also want to relay all of our heartfelt congratulations on the birth of your son, Christian. <joelando> I just want to apologize for keeping everyone waiting. Let's just dive right in. <LisaW> Good Evening, Joe. It means a lot to everyone gathered here that you could spend some time with us, especially after this trying week. Fans have sent their questions to me and I've tried to include as many as possible. A lot of people want to know if you would do another "Dr. Quinn" movie, if you have heard anything positive from CBS (or any other network) about a third DQ movie, and could they either find you a better wig or do something with extensions? <joelando> You know, one would think they could find me a better wig. And, if they were to trim this one a little more, it would make people happier with its appearance. My hair is too short to wear extensions. And, if there was another “Dr. Quinn” movie, I would do it in a heartbeat. If it was all right with Jane, it would be fine with me. But they, as of now, haven't spoken to me. I haven't heard from CBS one way or the other since the last “Dr. Quinn” movie. And I don't know if they approached Jane lately for it but I know we would both be very happy to shoot another “Dr. Quinn” movie. JoyceG, Northern New York: If you had your chance to do anything, what would you most like to do, creatively, in the future? <joelando> I would like to have another regular job, a network series, part of an ensemble cast, which would lighten the work schedule for me so that I could spend time with my family. And I would love to get a place out in the country and spend my idle time just remodeling and planting seeds and watching them grow. ConnieP, Southern Illinois: What is your favorite place of all the different places you and your family have visited? <joelando> I love a lot of Colorado and upper Utah. I think some of the most beautiful terrain we have ever seen together has been upper BC. I really loved living in British Columbia, the terrain is very dramatic and fiery and I also get those feelings when I'm in the mountains of Colorado. In fact, we felt the need to get out and go on a road trip about two weeks ago. We went to Telluride and Aspen, Glenwood Springs. We had a great time just doing a family road trip. It was a very spur-of-the-moment decision, but that's what we like to do, plan for about two days and just go. SueB, NYC: Can you let us know when you are making appearances on talk shows through TJLWP? We like to set our VCRs or even, when possible, visit the show. <joelando> Certainly. As soon as I know something. If there is going to be any publicity for the TBS movie, when the publicity machine is ready for that one, I will let everyone know. Given the situation of the past few days, I don't know when they'll be airing the movie that I did. Although it does not take place on an airplane or in a building or anything, it does involve terrorist activity, so I don't know if the general public is ready to be entertained by that right now. They'll let me know. LindaC, Northern California: How is your Mom? <joelando> My mom is doing fantastic, thank you very much, Linda. She just had her six-month physical. She's totally clean of cancer right now and we just keep saying our prayers. She looks great. She has her bad days but we're very lucky. Thank you. Nanlee, Virginia: Please tell us the highlights of Christian's labor and birth that you and Kirsten would be comfortable sharing with us. <joelando> Kirsten's pregnancy, like Jack's, was just a beautiful time for us. She was super healthy and took great care of herself. And every once in a while she had to actually remind herself that she was pregnant because she only gained less than 20 pounds up until the end. I think she was a total of 22 pounds in this pregnancy. She was very active and when we went to the hospital, it pretty much -- it wasn't a very spectacular birth up until the fact that we were going for a VBAC, which means a vaginal birth after a cesarean. So there was a certain amount of danger involved and, added to that, the whole week for some reason, and I don't think it was just because we were sensitive to it, but that whole week, either in the news or a special report or there were articles about the risks of having a VBAC, but Kirsten's doctor thought that she was healthy and a good candidate for it, so we went ahead. And the only thing that we had a problem with was, Christian was a little turned and so it took a while longer than we had hoped, but she did very well and did it without -- her epidural had worn off, so she did it without drugs and it was amazing. It was great to be with her and help her in this one because last time I felt very, very helpless. It went from a birthing room to an OR. This time I was able to be with her and help her and not be just catatonic sitting next to her. Actually, I held her legs and held her head and pushed with her and it was a beautiful thing watching the baby come into the world. And that was it. We went home a couple of days later, not five days like last time. And Kirsten was up and running around the next day. JuleeG Pennsylvania: What 2 or 3 things would Kirsten or your best friend say they value most about you? <joelando> I know I'm honest and dependable, usually. I know I'm always dependable for my wife. I'm always at home and I'm always there to help. MoniqueD, France: Hello again, I talked with you in Monaco! Would you like to make a new series? <joelando> I'd love to make a new series and, if I had my choice, it would take me to fabulous places like Monaco and Chicago, some of the great cities from around the world, but that's not my choice. I'm just back in line with every other actor looking for a job right now and keeping my fingers crossed they still have a place for somebody like me somewhere. LindaR, New Hampshire: How did you enjoy living in Canada? <joelando> I loved it. If I could have had family and friends there living around me, it would have been perfect, but that was the big drawback. And I needed that kind of family support close to us for my wife, for my immediate family, because, when you go to work, they are long days and it can get lonely at home for Kirsten and Jack. These are things that you don't know until you actually go out and give it a shot. We tried our best and, had the show continued and been a big success and ran for years, we would have had time there and made more friends, but it wasn't in the cards, so...we're back. We live a mile away from Kirsten's parents and our friends are over all the time and it's also much easier to commute now from my parents' now too, in Arizona. NancyT, Maine: Is there any chance of your being involved, as an actor and/or producer, in another TV show similar to the thought-provoking "Higher Ground?" <joelando> Right now I'm trying to work towards producing a script that I've come across, that's a friend's. He actually has two scripts; one is a comedy and one a psychodrama. I'm working on both of those, still in very early stages, and there's not a lot to talk about yet, but I would only want to work in a producer capacity on those projects. In the future, I'd rather -- I think, at least for the time being, I would prefer just to be an actor for hire rather than struggling with something like “Higher Ground,” that I had a lot of emotion attached to and its demise kind of left me not real anxious to go out there and try that again any time soon. It was very disappointing but I am glad and very proud that I had the opportunity to make 22 episodes of “Higher Ground.” AndreaC, Brazil: My question, Mr. Lando, you have played different characters. Do you have a favourite one? <joelando> Of course, “Sully” has to be a favorite. I used to say that the character of “Sonny Snow” was fun because he was like one of those bad guys you can have a good time playing. And I enjoyed many aspects of “Peter Scarbrow.” He was a lot like me in a way and he still had the goodness of “Sully” without all the seriousness. We had to be like that because the issues we were dealing with were sometimes so heavy, you have to find – and this is true of real counselors – you have to find some levity and, as one of the counselors, I had to be a person the kids could relate to and not seem like you're impervious to making mistakes. DebbyKB, Pittsburgh: I would like to thank you for the hospitality you showed to fans in Montreal and to me personally for signing my sketch of the DQ wedding. I wondered if you were aware that fans are encouraging Hallmark to produce another DQ movie? <joelando> No, I didn't know that. It seems like Hallmark would be a perfect place for a really good quality DQ. Hallmark is known for making that kind of product and I think that would be a wonderful place for DQ, to be like a “Lonesome Dove,” kind of, we can revisit DQ from time to time. And, as far as I know right now, I wasn't aware that people were trying to campaign in getting Hallmark to take a look at us. Thank you very much for the effort. Let me know if anything comes of it. Judy Allen, (TJLWP webmistress), Florida: Joe, do you enjoy doing romantic stories? If you do, why, and, if you don't, why not? <joelando> Yes, I enjoy doing romantic stories. It seems I've done a lot of them, from the Soaps, “Dr. Quinn.” When you work with somebody you have chemistry with, it's easy and it's fun and you hardly call it work. <LisaW> LisaW, Indianapolis: What is your first major remodeling plan for your new house? <joelando> We've already been hard at work at remodeling some things in our house. Although it was a fairly new house, it was only a year and a half old, there were some things that still had to be taken care of by the contractor and there were a few things that we had to change to give it more of our personality than the people who lived here before us. We've already built a little white picket fence and I built a little garden on the side of the house that part of it serves as a place for the dogs to go when they need release. But I mostly did just lots of gardening. That's been the biggest thing this house needed, was some greenery and flowers. Actually, as I speak, Kirsten is planting several flowers that I purchased today with Jack at the nursery and I've been busy inside watching CNN and working on my study. SandraS, Virginia: Will you be appearing on Danny Bonaduce's new talk show? <joelando> If Danny asks me, because he's a friend. KateT, Erie: I have been a fan for about a year after I discovered DQMW last fall on Odyssey and enjoy the tiny glimpses of how the TV show and movies were made. My question is, when your agent calls you to go on an audition, how much actual time do you have to prepare for the reading and how anxious do you get? <joelando> Whether I have an hour or like I have had sometimes the auditioning process go on for like two weeks or three weeks, I am always incredibly anxious. The audition and the wait is definitely the hardest part for me and the most painful. StaceyJ, California: What was your favorite fan encounter? <joelando> My favorite fan encounter, I'd have to say it was just hundreds of really cool fan encounters at the Ranch. And they usually involved the kids who came out and looked up at me like I was “Superman” or some hero of theirs like we used to look at other people on TV when we were kids. And I would try to continue to keep that magic going for them because I just didn't want to disappoint them. And we had several handicapped kids that would come out there and the joy in their eyes would just inspire you to be happy and be thankful that you have this chance to do what you do and to entertain people and bring some happiness to them. PenniF, North Carolina: Joe, would you ever consider doing another soap opera in this point of your career? <joelando> Sure. Soap opera wouldn't be my first choice but, at this point in my life and the way I feel about putting the importance of work over the family and such, if a soap opera would facilitate what I want to do with my career and my personal life, then certainly I would consider a soap. It would allow me to act and still do other things with my life. MontseC, Paris: Hi, Joe, a French Bonjour et Merci beaucoup. All my sympathy and solidarity with you and your country after the tragedy caused by the terrorist attack on New York and Washington. Have you had the opportunity to watch privately "Attack on the Queen?" What scene did you enjoy most playing? <joelando> First of all I have to say Bonjour. It's very nice to hear from you and thank you for your words, your kind words I should say. We Americans appreciate the way our friends around the world are sticking by us and we all hope for their continued support in what's going to be some very trying times in the future. As far as “Attack on the Queen” goes, although I've done over 7 hours of ADR work, which means additional dialogue recording, I've had yet to see the movie in its entirety, but I'm very happy with the little snippets that I've seen and I hope the finished product makes everyone happy. JudyP, Boston: I would also like to thank you for being so generous with your time in Montreal. While working on "Attack on the Queen," did you have a chance to do any touristy things in Australia? <joelando> Working on AOTQ was one of the best working schedules I ever had. It was a matter of working 3 or 4 days in a row and then having sometimes up to 5 days off, which meant Sea World, Kangaroo Jungle, bird sanctuaries, and all the beaches in the area were our playground. We tried to see as much of Australia as we could while we were there. Rossella, Italy: Thanks for being here and congratulations on your boys to you and Kirsten. You have played many parts which are sometimes very different between them. Have they left something inside you? Is there one you are particularly close to? <joelando> I'd have to say “Peter” has left the most lasting impression on me because it came at a time in my life when I was thinking more about fatherhood and children and how easily we can lose our way. And dealing with the kids that we saw in person at these schools that we visited and talking with other parents really gave me some lessons that I try to hold on to now as a parent of two boys. I'm sure, if they are anything like I was, it will prove to be challenging to their parents. I think I have come away from the experience of ”Higher Ground” with a better understanding of the challenges of being a teenager in today's society. RubyH, Australia: G'Day, Joe. Sincere thanks for your kindness to me while in Australia. If you could choose the character you would most like to portray, who or what would it be? <joelando> First of all, I want to say to Ruby, I had a wonderful time with you while I was in Australia. She's probably one of the best things about being down under. Ruby has quite a spirit. I just want all you folks out there to know that, while we never knew if we were having a boy or a girl, Kirsten and I were constantly playing the name game and trying to come up with different names for the baby and we even talked about “Ruby” for a little girl. Kirsten thought that was awfully cute and I agreed. I was just worried about having the two names as I called out my children, “Jack and Ruby,” too close together, in reference to the JFK assassination. And also I have a lot to say to Ruby. Ruby, the pictures of Kirsten, the baby, and the flowers that she sent are on their way. There were two rolls of photos that were lost by the lab and they were all of Christian's first few days of life and they just got them back to us now, so thankfully I will be able to send you those pictures that I promised, but we did think they were lost for a while. I wouldn't mind taking a pass at JFK, Jr. but it would be a daunting task. He interests me because we somewhat grew up together, along side one another, except our lives were vastly different, but he was someone that I knew so much about because the Kennedys are like our royalty. <LisaW> Hang in there, gang -- Jack takes the lead! Lyndc5: Are you and Jane Seymour going to be making any new movies together? <joelando> Jane and I have talked about it and I know, if there was good material, that I'm sure that we'd be more than happy to work together again. And I'd like to work with her husband too, James, he's a nice guy and a good director. So the answer is, “yes.” PattyC: Is your favorite rock band U2 or ?? And have you ever seen U2 in concert? <joelando> Yes. I've seen U2 several times in concert. And I couldn't honestly tell you who my favorite band is right now, there's a lot of mediocre music out there these days, but I find myself revisiting a lot of my old CDs, listening to classical music and jazz, because you can always count on that. AnneE, Buffalo: When you took that trip around the Southwest after filming the DQ pilot, where did you go and what did you do? Did anyone go with you? <joelando> Kirsten went with me. And I know we went to Telluride and a few other much smaller old mining towns. And then we just wandered on down into Arizona and I tried to spend as much time away from the touristy places as possible. When you're doing research like that, you don't know exactly what you're looking for, more or less just a feeling of a kind of familiarity, even if it's just the smells and to really see the sights. Colorado feels much different than Southern California and there are just subtle things that you wouldn't pick up on unless you actually had been there and felt them and seen them with your own two eyes. KarenV, Wisconsin and KarenA, Ontario: Are you looking into the casting for a new character on "West Wing?" Would you consider being a Republican lawyer within the Aaron Sorkin's government agency on "West Wing?" <joelando> I'd be very interested. And although I've only watched the show once, I think everyone does a great job and I love the way it's produced. I'd be honored to be playing a Republican, although I'm not. Gabbytoo, Florida: What is the most important lesson you learned from you dad? <joelando> My dad is -- he's just a really honest, hardworking, straight guy, straight honest. My father would never take anything that wasn't his or ask for anything he doesn't deserve. And I always knew that about my father but it didn't really stand out to me until I grew a little bit older and saw that not every man conducts himself in that manner. Hopefully, when my sons look at me, they will see a guy who somewhat resembles that man, my father. KayS, Scotland: Is there a possibility you might be coming to Scotland? If so, I'd like to give you a great big hug and thank you, as your "Sully" character kept me going through a very rough time in my life. <joelando> I would love to visit Scotland. I had the opportunity once, I think it was in the third year of DQ, to go on a photo shoot to Skeebo (phonetic) but wasn't able to do it because of work, but given the situation of the past few days, I don't see myself doing any long-distance traveling in the near future. CherylP: Do you find that being the dad of two children is a lot different than when you had just one; that is, does the old adage "One is like none and two is like ten" ring true for you and Kirsten? <joelando> Not yet. Actually, a friend of mine was over the other day, my buddy, Brian Tarantina, from New York, who I used to work with on “One Life to Live.” He was over for the night, and he said, "Eh, you got that thing down pretty well for two kids.” I said, “Really?” He goes, “Yeah. Looks like you're doing a pretty good job with it, it hasn't affected you.” But I think it's because Christian is still so young. It's not like two kids getting into things at the same time. StingerXX6, Massachusetts: Which of your children has his father's traits? <joelando> Jack, definitely. And he has the same shyness. But once he gets over that, forget about it. GailW, Philadelphia: In “Higher Ground,” you had Jim Byrnes who was with Adrian Paul in "Highlander." Would you consider working with Adrian Paul? <joelando> I never really thought about it. SarahM, St. Paul: What do you look for in deciding whether or not to do a particular role? <joelando> Something different, something that has similarities to other characters that I've played, but I don't like to repeat myself as an actor. If I put the script down more than once, then there's a good chance that I probably don't want to play the part. JulieW, California: Congratulations on your new baby. What was Jack's first reaction to his new baby brother? <joelando> Jack's first reaction to his new baby brother was wonderful. He couldn't wait to get to the hospital and meet him and he's been really good with his baby brother. No horror stories to report so far. We've been very aware of what the turmoil of bringing a new baby into the house can present. We have been very lucky that Jack has handled it very well and continues to love his little brother. Douchka, France: How do you reconcile your tastes as regards your career and what your fans expect from you? <joelando> Well, I have to make half of my decision based on what I think my fans will appreciate and accept from me and the other half has got to be for me and my personal reasons: is it good for my career, does it take me and my family some place we haven't been before, and does it give me a good paycheck. Icycalm59, Illinois: Do you miss living in the Midwest and have you ever considered filming a show or movie in the Chicagoland area? <LisaW> Hang on. Joe is talking with Kirsten -- he'll be right with us. <LisaW> Remember to periodically send *something* to help you not time out. Icycalm59, Illinois: Do you miss living in the Midwest and have you ever considered filming a show or movie in the Chicagoland area? <joelando> I would love the opportunity to work in Chicago, I would love it. It would be like a dream come true, if I could work there on something like the way ER was filmed, where you spent “x” amount of weeks in Chicago filming the exteriors and then come back to LA and shoot the interiors. I just haven't had a chance to do anything there, but I love the Midwest. I think about it every day, about going back there, and I wonder if I would rather have a little farm somewhere in the Midwest, in Illinois or Wisconsin, or would I rather have like a little getaway up in the mountains of Colorado. I go up and back between the two. You can take the boy out of the Midwest but you can't take the Midwest out of the boy. CathyP, Quebec: "Sully" had a whistle call during “Dr. Quinn.” Did you make them yourself and, if so, was it difficult to learn how to do them and did you know what bird you were imitating? <joelando> Yeah. I made that up myself. There were two. There was one that was a straight whistle and there was one that was supposed to sound like a dove. BarbH, Lansing: Before "Higher Ground" ended, we heard that you were going to have the opportunity to perhaps direct several episodes in Season 2. At this point in time, do you see directing in your future? <joelando> No. It seemed really close at hand when “Higher Ground” was up and running and I would have been directing in the second year, that was part of the understanding. Now I toy with the idea but I'm just not as committed to it as I was before but, if the opportunity presents itself, I will definitely give it a try. RubyH, Australia: Just before you got moving with "Higher Ground," you were discussing with PAX an idea you had and you seemed to think something might come of it. Has that been put to sleep forever now? <joelando> It's sleeping right now. But I want to go over and talk to Pax again about a couple of things but I have to wait and see. BarbH, Michigan: We know you like action films (we like you in action films, too) but would you consider doing a romantic comedy if the script was well written? <joelando> Oh, definitely. In fact, I think that when I really try to get along with the other person, I could be good at that stuff. SueB, NYC: We know you kept the silver wedding ring from "One Life to Live" and buckskins, etc, from DQ. What other mementos did you keep from shows or series you have acted in? <joelando> I always get to make a getaway with my suits because they have to alter them so much. Usually they don't -- they can't really use them for anybody else afterwards. So, either the wardrobe person very kindly leaves me those or I pay him a little bit and they're mine. I also have all of Peter's boots from Higher Ground, the hiking boots, and a couple of his jackets. But all actors almost always try to steal some of their wardrobe. SandraS, Virginia: Whatever happened with the "Outer Limits" episode? Will that still happen? <joelando> No, they went with an actor named John Shipp, I believe, an actor from I believe “Dawson's Creek.” I think he's the dad on that show or something, but not for now, it's not going. Rossella, Italy: I have seen "Higher Ground" in its English version thanks to a friend who sent me the recordings. I hope the Italiana TV can broadcast the series very soon in my country. It was a very good show. Can you tell us a good and a bad quality of "Peter"? Would you have changed something of this character? Thanks. <joelando> Good and bad? Well, “Peter” before was a very self-involved person who learned to reach out and help others. And all I wish I would have been able to do is show even more of the more edgier sides of “Peter” and what someone in his position goes through, but given the network we were at, we had a lot of restrictions. KarenV, Wisconsin: I have read both "Attack on the Queen" and "Nightwatch." I really enjoyed the characters of “Vince Kellogg” and his brother, “Thomas.” I was wondering if there is a possibility of making these characters into a TV series or even a series of TV movies? <joelando> There's been talk about possibly another movie involving the Kellogg brothers, and it's definitely the type of material that could lend itself to a series, but I do believe that Rob Estes is going to be committed to another series, but hopefully he and I will be able to play brothers in another TBS movie. MontseC, Paris: What has acting given you that you would qualify as most rewarding and least rewarding? <joelando> Given me the opportunity to live, although not an extravagant lifestyle, a comfortable one . The only negative would be the somewhat loss of anonymity, but that's not really a bad one. JuneB, NY: Has Jack shown any interest in learning to cook and is he a good or fussy eater? <joelando> He doesn't really care for food but he does love to cook and he loves getting involved in the kitchen when Kirsten bakes; he always wants to be part of the process. AnnaS, Russia: Is the Cheyenne language you spoke in "Doctor Quinn" real Cheyenne and how difficult were those phrases to learn? <joelando> It was real Cheyenne. And the difficulty usually was that I would get the translations just the night before, sometimes earlier, but often times I would get the correct translation the night before and they were done phonetically and they were written out for me and I also had an audiotape. And it was very difficult because it was not like any other language you would be familiar with. JudyA (webmistress), Florida: What have you read lately that you think would be just right for you? <joelando> Eraser. It's still not a goner. They haven't chosen anybody and it's still somewhere on the backburner. Sandi, Ohio: Are you and your beautiful wife, Kirsten, planning on having more children? <joelando> Yes. PenniF, North Carolina: How did you and Kirsten come up with the name Christian Antonio? <joelando> Actually, we liked the name Hayden because I worked with Hayden Christensen on HG and we were debating on -– we really liked the name Hayden and we were on a road trip, the northern BC trip that we took. And we were looking at his name in an article and, as we were reading , all of a sudden I just asked about Christian, would she consider Christian instead of Hayden, you know, Christensen, Christian, “How about that?” And that's how it kind of came around; Christian we started toying with. And Antonio is my father's real first name. But for years we thought it was always Anthony Joseph, but everyone called him Joseph instead of Anthony. But then my dad goes, “Oh, no, my name is Antonio.” Actually, he told us this like right before the baby was born because we were going to name him Christian Anthony Lando. And my dad goes, no, it's really on his birth certificate as Antonio. So, it went to Christian Antonio. So it's my father's real name. And of course Jack is Jack Neville after Kirsten's father. And Christian is from Hayden Christensen. BarbaraH, Lansing: We have heard you and Kirsten enjoyed the book "Tuesdays with Morrie." Is there a book you are currently reading and would you share with us what it is? <joelando> I'm reading a book, just about to begin it, and it's a book about what's the next big thing in the economy and financial world and I don't think it would be very interesting to people. And then, again, I just picked up the “Great Gatsby” for about the 900th time. So I am going to read the “Great Gatsby” again. F. Scott Fitzgerald, you can't go wrong. And I have to wrap it up now for sure. <jra28>(Judy) Is there anything you want to say in closing? <joelando> Yes. First I want to apologize again for being late and to thank everybody for their questions. And we have to do this again sometime in the next few months when I can clear up all the other questions that I didn't have a chance to answer today. Thanks to everybody for their time. And we don't mean to sound presumptuous in what I'm about to say but, if for whatever reason, my birthday coming up the end of this year, my big 4-0, or any of the kids' birthdays or any of them -- you know, sometimes people like to send presents and things to my family or to myself, I would love for them, and really appreciate it, if they would donate their money or whatever, just a gift, to the Police and Firemen's Relief Fund in NYC. And there is an 800 number that comes up across the screen on CNN. I think that would be very appropriate. That's where we'd really love to see the money go towards. God bless you to everyone and stay safe. <LisaW> Good Night, Joe -- hello to Kirsten -- and thank you. <jra28>(Judy) Joe, I can't thank you enough for being here tonight to chat and we will be looking forward to seeing you again soon. *** Parts: joelando Session Close: Sat Sep 15, 09:41:28 p.m. EDT 2001 |
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